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Pete
06-28-2007, 02:05 PM
Observe !!!!


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4648624627192508186&q=Pandora%27s+Black+Box%3A+Chapter+2&total=6&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Pete
06-28-2007, 03:29 PM
If you follow this premise ,, then that plane is somewhere, a cruise missle would acount for the round hole videoed in other articles, and the terrorists are somewhere,,, where ???
As for the passengers there would have explanation to flight numbers and who precisely has been killed in the attack on the pentagon,

Blake
06-30-2007, 06:08 AM
It astonishes me that there is still some people that believe Building 7 came down from the initial strike at the two other towers.
After watching the video I am more convinced then I was previously that it was a cruise missle that struck the Pentagon.

aifo yakov
08-14-2007, 04:07 AM
It astonishes me that there is still some people that believe Building 7 came down from the initial strike at the two other towers.
After watching the video I am more convinced then I was previously that it was a cruise missle that struck the Pentagon.
What happened to the people on flight 77, like my sister's friend?

How about pictures showing Armerican Airlisnes arliner parts whiel the Pentagon is burning?

When a nuke goes off in a major city, are you going to sya that the government nuked us?

Blake
08-14-2007, 07:08 AM
I dont know what happened to the people on flight 77 but accept the findings presented by the investigation when there are so many inconsistencies is to waste your mind.

Jamie Mctyre reprts no physical parts when he was at the scene later revised there were burning parts, maybe he went in to temporary insanity and then snapped out of it.

Because i believe there is those in the government operating seperately from the regularities from its foundation under the Constitution, I would question it, yes. I'm not alone as the founding fathers of that Constitution put in place for there to be a malitia to oversee accounts and balances on government run amuck says to me they had wisdom and forsight to predict questionable acts.
These are questionable acts and do not exempt future questionable acts.

Mindcore
08-14-2007, 10:54 AM
To think that any government follows even thier own rules to the letter 100% of the time is pure fantasy.

I guess the mystery is how far do you think they are willing to push it? At what cost political power?

aifo yakov
08-15-2007, 01:33 PM
I dont know what happened to the people on flight 77 but accept the findings presented by the investigation when there are so many inconsistencies is to waste your mind.

Jamie Mctyre reprts no physical parts when he was at the scene later revised there were burning parts, maybe he went in to temporary insanity and then snapped out of it.

Because i believe there is those in the government operating seperately from the regularities from its foundation under the Constitution, I would question it, yes. I'm not alone as the founding fathers of that Constitution put in place for there to be a malitia to oversee accounts and balances on government run amuck says to me they had wisdom and forsight to predict questionable acts.
These are questionable acts and do not exempt future questionable acts.
This is a waste of time.

All this crap was strted by a Frenchman who hates American and expecially hates Bush. It was a figment of his imagination.

You guys don;t even believe the phone calls amde formt he airplanes are true.

CHUQ
08-16-2007, 03:55 AM
This is a waste of time.

All this crap was strted by a Frenchman who hates American and expecially hates Bush. It was a figment of his imagination.

You guys don;t even believe the phone calls amde formt he airplanes are true.

Why is everyone's opinion or questions a waste of time? Why is everyone wrong but you? Is there some divine intervention that we should know about?

iris in stones
09-02-2007, 01:11 PM
All this crap was strted by a Frenchman who hates American and expecially hates Bush. It was a figment of his imagination.


I'm not so xenophobic.
I would never put it past the U.S. government to kill Americans. They've been enjoying war after war for generations now.
I don't think another life is much to the anti-democrats at the top.

Pete
09-03-2007, 07:00 AM
All this crap was strted by a Frenchman who hates American and expecially hates Bush. It was a figment of his imagination.


I'm not so xenophobic.
I would never put it past the U.S. government to kill Americans. They've been enjoying war after war for generations now.
I don't think another life is much to the anti-democrats at the top.

Sad part it's usually after, or history that later reveals the crimes when people no longer care. Lesson is people never really learn from the past.

aifo yakov
09-10-2007, 11:32 PM
Why is everyone's opinion or questions a waste of time? Why is everyone wrong but you? Is there some divine intervention that we should know about?
It doesn't take devine intervention (whatever that is). it takes reading credible source like Scientific american, Science news, and other journals. Does it take devine intervention to say that the earth is a globe or should we give credibility to people who think it is flat?

It is a waste of time because your guys completely ingnonre facts not in question:

1. Our Postmaster's policeman friend in Arlington, VA. saw the airplane fly overhead, over a knoll and then heard it hit the building. He was the first person to call it in. it was a PASSENGER plane and he isn't so dumb that he can't tell that form and F-16 or a cruise missile.

2. My sister lost a friend on that airplane.

3. There were phone calls from airplane passengers describing the hijacking and murdering of people in advance.

4. There is a picture of the airplane at treetop height from a security camera.

5. There are jet liner parts visible in picture of the people fighting the Pentagon fire.

6. Radar tracked the plane turning around, coming back to Washington, until the hijackers turned off the transponder. next it showed up over Arlington circling the Pentagon.

7. All videos of buildings destroyed by controlled demolition showing them exploding from the bottom up and falling ing form the bottom up. The WTC clearly fell from the top down. To deny this is to say that you don't know up form down.

Good read a recent Science News (not on line - try your local library) and read what happens to buildings in fires.
Read this from the designer of the WTC: (http://http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1189411379638&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter)

Who knew, as well, that the first project Brown worked on as a young engineer in 1967 would come tumbling down 34 years later as a result of a suicide attack?

On the sixth anniversary of the World Trade Center bombings, Brown explains how two 110-story buildings could collapse so quickly and thoroughly, and warns that the only way to avoid similar incidents is to prevent terrorism.

"Every building higher than 12 floors is at risk," he asserts. "A terrorist can take a 55-gallon drum of airplane fuel up in an elevator, pour it on the floor of one of the stories, ignite it and bring the building down."

This, Brown elaborates, is because "nothing in a building burns above 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit, and steel doesn't melt at that temperature. Airplane fuel, on the other hand, burns at 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit... [and] there is no fire-proofing design today that withstands [that kind of heat]."

The only way to effectively fire-proof steel columns, he says, is to surround each one with the ceramic tiles used on the space shuttle.

"But no one could afford to move into such an expensive building," he stresses. "If you build a building for a public function, such as the Knesset, maybe you have an obligation to put that kind of fire-proofing on it. But if you build for a profit - as we did the WTC - you can't afford to do that."

aifo yakov
09-10-2007, 11:35 PM
Sad part it's usually after, or history that later reveals the crimes when people no longer care. Lesson is people never really learn from the past.

One lesson that many of us learned is that their are people who ahte us and will go to war to kill us and don;t care if they die. Quite the contrary, they thik that dying gives them and their families free passage to "heaven". They are the oens who believe in devine itnervention.

Pete
09-11-2007, 06:11 AM
One lesson that many of us learned is that their are people who ahte us and will go to war to kill us and don;t care if they die. Quite the contrary, they thik that dying gives them and their families free passage to "heaven". They are the oens who believe in devine itnervention.

So how do we change that ?
It's obvious that occupieing them, taking away their home, killing them and their family has not changed that.
We're not going to follow or change our belief to their God,
Israel has had 60 years to prove that fighting fire with fire can bring about peace from its neighbours , yet has failed.
The US has has invaded, killed, starved and devoted its nations lives to changing the regimes that are "unfriendly", yet it too has failed, not only failed but axasperated the hate.

I may be naive but i believe all people are entitled to peace, liberty, freedom, and their right raise their families in a nation they can call their own, free of external threat and occupation, and perhaps it is the key to changing those taht would martyr their lives for a minute if not insignificant advance towards creating peace.

iris in stones
09-11-2007, 02:28 PM
One lesson that many of us learned is that their are people who ahte us and will go to war to kill us and don;t care if they die. Quite the contrary, they thik that dying gives them and their families free passage to "heaven". They are the oens who believe in devine itnervention.

No, they don't believe in divine intervention.
They believe in human intervention with the divine, making deals for their salvation with god as though the universe were some kind of marketplace. I kill x number of Americans, I get into heaven and god can't say no.
I don't think god works that way.
They are Arminians. Faith? They have no faith. Period.

Sonny
09-17-2007, 06:11 AM
No, they don't believe in divine intervention.
They believe in human intervention with the divine, making deals for their salvation with god as though the universe were some kind of marketplace. I kill x number of Americans, I get into heaven and god can't say no.
I don't think god works that way.
They are Arminians. Faith? They have no faith. Period.

So why not consider and get a better understanding of what people will resort to when their life and future appear hopeless. Can you really blame people for finding their inner being to a faith in a God to rid themselves of the torment they suffer under occupation.
Even a mexican chihauhau when backed in a corner will come out snarling.

iris in stones
09-17-2007, 09:51 AM
So why not consider and get a better understanding of what people will resort to when their life and future appear hopeless. Can you really blame people for finding their inner being to a faith in a God to rid themselves of the torment they suffer under occupation.
Even a mexican chihauhau when backed in a corner will come out snarling.

Well, considering the fact that I live in the United States, where health care and infrastructure are crumbling, there are hungry and homeless in the streets, and the government is becoming Brazil, I'm sure I'll find out what that kind of torment is soon enough.
And occupation of foreign countries (starting with the Confederate South)?
Americans shouldn't do it.
They've never been good at it.
Still though, having faith is not the same as making concrete deals with God.
If all faith were that simple, the Reformation and subsequent wars of religion would never have happened.

Lewis
09-17-2007, 01:52 PM
Well, considering the fact that I live in the United States, where health care and infrastructure are crumbling, there are hungry and homeless in the streets, and the government is becoming Brazil, I'm sure I'll find out what that kind of torment is soon enough.
And occupation of foreign countries (starting with the Confederate South)?
Americans shouldn't do it.
They've never been good at it.
Still though, having faith is not the same as making concrete deals with God.
If all faith were that simple, the Reformation and subsequent wars of religion would never have happened.

People that are under extreme stress or hardship always look for the answers through a higher being. During health issues they turn to prayer and find God, those in incarcerated all of a suddent find religion and God.
I can also understand there are those that force religious passages of the past to cohearse the weak and down troddin in to giving their life in the name of their God.