New 9/11 data

[Sonny]

New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon

Thu Jun 21, 3:01 AM ET

Pilots for 9/11 Truth obtained black box data from the government under the Freedom of Information Act for AA Flight 77, which The 9/11 Report claims hit the Pentagon. Analysis of the data contradicts the official account in direction, approach, and altitude. The plane was too high to hit lamp posts and would have flown over the Pentagon, not impacted with its ground floor. This result confirms and strengthens the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the buillding.

Madison, WI (PRWEB) June 21, 2007 - A study of the black box data provided by the government to Pilots for 9/11 Truth has confirmed the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon on 9/11. "We have had four lines of proof that no Boeing 757 hit the building," said James Fetzer, founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. "This new study by Pilots drives another nail into a coffin of lies told the American people by The 9/11 Commission":

http://fe2.news.sp1.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20070621/bs_prweb/prweb534642

[Pete]

Taken from a post reply i made in another forum in reference to fear as the culprit of suspicion.

If a poll were taken asking the question, are you more fearful now then you were before 9/11 i'm not so sure that a large proportionate only reacted on the fears intriduced to them by their government.
i sensed from people asked on the streets when the risk level was raised to orange, many of those asked responded with "its all bs" signifying they did not believe the fear mongering from their leadership.
Now i understand that 29% of the US population believe 9/11 is am inside conspiracy, but that leaves a large percentage who although they are not dabbling in the conspiracy theories as dismissing the event of 9/11 as sign for fear.
My point is the Americans never lost their strength but they were swindled, conned, sold magic water and they bought it hook line and sinker because their false faith would not allow them to believe otherwise, or it would reflect on their intelligence,
Same theory as that from folk tale the Emperors new clothes.

[Sonny]

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/This is the best video i have seen for a while, it's a little long, 2 hours but worth discussion and taken seriously as topic.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

[CHUQ]

I have contended since 9/12 that the attack was the best thing that could have happened to Bush. He got whatever he wanted thru Congress. I t was a boon to the govt and has made a lot of people rich.

[Sonny]

I have contended since 9/12 that the attack was the best thing that could have happened to Bush. He got whatever he wanted thru Congress. I t was a boon to the govt and has made a lot of people rich.

It makes it difficult to believe and accept something so obviously clear after viewing the many videos available, for one to accept it is to also accept that lives can be sacrificed for a larger government agenda.
Unfortunately those that died never had the option to be the patriots of an adminastration destined to reak havoc on a soverign nation for nothing more then corporate greed for more oil.

[Pete]

With all the videos showing facts, clear cut observations, opinions and those with professional expertice on the subject of 9/11 how can candidates like Hillary and Obama make such foolish statements such as Obama did today and Hillary recently.

Obama Vows to Hunt Down Terrorists
Associated Press | August 01, 2007
By Nedra Pickler

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Wednesday that he would send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists even without local permission if warranted - an attempt to show strength when his chief rival has described his foreign policy skills as naive.

The Illinois senator warned Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf that he must do more to shut down terrorist operations in his country and evict foreign fighters under an Obama presidency, or Pakistan will risk a U.S. troop invasion and losing hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid.

"Let me make this clear," Obama said in a speech at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. "There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."

Obama's speech comes the week after his rivalry with New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton erupted into a public fight over their diplomatic intentions.

Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of rogue states like Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions, an idea that Clinton criticized as irresponsible and naive. Obama responded by using the same words to describe Clinton's vote to authorize the Iraq war and called her "Bush-Cheney lite."

Thousands of Taliban fighters are based in Pakistan's vast and jagged mountains, where they can pass into Afghanistan, train for suicide operations and find refuge from local tribesmen. Intelligence experts warn that al-Qaida could be rebuilding here to mount another attack on the United States.

Musharraf has been a key ally of Washington in fighting terrorism since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, but has faced accusations from some quarters in Pakistan of being too closely tied to America.

The Bush administration has supported Musharraf and stressed the need to cooperate with Pakistan, but lately administration officials have suggested the possibility of military strikes to deal with al-Qaida and its leader, Osama bin Laden.

Analysts say an invasion could risk destabilizing Pakistan, breeding more militancy and undermining Musharraf. The Pakistani Foreign Office, protective of its national sovereignty, has warned that U.S. military action would violate international law and be deeply resented.

A military invasion could be risky, given Pakistan's hostile terrain and the suspicion of its warrior-minded tribesmen against uninvited outsiders.

Congress passed legislation Friday that would tie aid from the United States to Islamabad's efforts to stop al-Qaida and the Taliban from operating in its territory. President Bush has yet to sign it.

Obama's speech was a condemnation of President Bush's leadership in the war on terror. He said the focus on Iraq has left Americans in more danger than before Sept. 11, and that Bush has misrepresented the enemy as Iraqis who are fighting a civil war instead of the terrorists responsible for the attacks six years ago.

"He confuses our mission," Obama said, then he spread responsibility to lawmakers like Clinton who voted for the invasion. "By refusing to end the war in Iraq, President Bush is giving the terrorists what they really want, and what the Congress voted to give them in 2002: a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences."

Obama said that as commander in chief he would remove troops from Iraq and putting them "on the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan." He said he would send at least two more brigades to Afghanistan and increase nonmilitary aid to the country by $1 billion.

He also said he would create a three-year, $5 billion program to share intelligence with allies worldwide to take out terrorist networks from Indonesia to Africa.

Read the full article on SFGate.com


There is a lot of talk of Obama being too naive to lead the US and when he makes this statement " "There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans."" like does he really believe Bin Ladin was responsible for 9/11 ?? i mean does he really believe that ? It was all i could do to take this guy serious when he puts himself out on the limb like this with foolish statements.

[aifo yakov]

New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon

Thu Jun 21, 3:01 AM ET

Pilots for 9/11 Truth obtained black box data from the government under the Freedom of Information Act for AA Flight 77, which The 9/11 Report claims hit the Pentagon. Analysis of the data contradicts the official account in direction, approach, and altitude. The plane was too high to hit lamp posts and would have flown over the Pentagon, not impacted with its ground floor. This result confirms and strengthens the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the buillding.

Madison, WI (PRWEB) June 21, 2007 - A study of the black box data provided by the government to Pilots for 9/11 Truth has confirmed the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon on 9/11. "We have had four lines of proof that no Boeing 757 hit the building," said James Fetzer, founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. "This new study by Pilots drives another nail into a coffin of lies told the American people by The 9/11 Commission":

http://fe2.news.sp1.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20070621/bs_prweb/prweb534642

Is that despite the phot of the surveilance video showing the Ariliner hiting a light post?

You know what is funny?

They got the black box data with everything about the flight. if the flight didn't crash, they wouldn't have black box data. Sicne they hve the data, did they say where it crashed?

Wouldn't it be an incredible coincidence that the plane crashed exactly at the same time as the "Government Operated Thing" hit the Pentagon?

You know what else is funny? The people on the airplane made phone calls about the hijacking and they described a flight attendent and others getting their throats slit. How do you explain that away?

How do you explain the observations of an Arlington Policeman who called it in to 911?

How do you explain that all four planes were hijacked at the same time? How do you explain thligh 93 passengers talking of terroists hijacking the plane?

How od you explain your failure to look at all the evidence that shows the consiracy theorists don;t know what theya re tlaking about?

These are the same schmucks that claim the moon landings were hoaxes.

[George W]

If indeed there is this black box and it contradicts the government report, I could ask the same question, how do YOU explain it was too high to knock down lamp posts.
Why no signs of wing strikes on the side of the building and why a round hole.
To believe the governments explanation is to close your eyes and convince yourself that that never lie.

[aifo yakov]

New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon

Thu Jun 21, 3:01 AM ET

Pilots for 9/11 Truth obtained black box data from the government under the Freedom of Information Act for AA Flight 77, which The 9/11 Report claims hit the Pentagon. Analysis of the data contradicts the official account in direction, approach, and altitude. The plane was too high to hit lamp posts and would have flown over the Pentagon, not impacted with its ground floor. This result confirms and strengthens the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the building.

Madison, WI (PRWEB) June 21, 2007 - A study of the black box data provided by the government to Pilots for 9/11 Truth has confirmed the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon on 9/11. "We have had four lines of proof that no Boeing 757 hit the building," said James Fetzer, founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. "This new study by Pilots drives another nail into a coffin of lies told the American people by The 9/11 Commission":

http://fe2.news.sp1.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20070621/bs_prweb/prweb534642

What did the 757 hit if it wasn't the Pentagon? After alll the black box is form a crash, no?

Isn't it an amazing coincidence that the people on the airplane called on their cell phones to say that the plane was hijacked and the hijackers killed some people and at the very same moment Bush's missile or fighter plane hit the Pentagon?

Ditto for the WTC: there you can't possibly deny the videos of planes being flown into the Pentagon. But again, what an amazing coincidence that Bush had the building wired with explosives that went off at the very instance the planes hit.