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Just thought I would see what others thought about this article.
President Vladimir Putin's decision to lead the pro-Kremlin United Russia party into parliamentary elections means that, for the first time in the post-communist era, a president will participate in an election on a party political platform. The move will fundamentally transform the structure of Russia's "super-presidential" system, which was introduced by Boris Yeltsin in December 1993.
Putin's statement that he could stay in power, this time as prime minister, has been interpreted as evidence of the consolidation of authoritarian rule. This analysis is based on a number of arguments.
LINK (http://www.forbes.com/leadership/careers/2007/10/16/putin-russia-kremlin-cx_1017oxford.html)
Stanley
10-17-2007, 08:18 AM
I'm not sure what the consensus is within Russia and Putins favourable on unfavourable opinion but if he is supported by most of Russian people and he has begun a campaign to improve Russia's place on the world stage, it could be a good thing to allow him to go beyond a two term limit as a President and continue what may be a successful ruling even as PM.
It beats the corrupt governing of Boris Yeltsin holding on to the title and power but holding Russia stagnat.
iris in stones
10-17-2007, 03:10 PM
This analysis is based on a number of arguments.
Not to mention a thorough reading of Russian history.
I'm not sure what the consensus is within Russia and Putins favourable on unfavourable opinion but if he is supported by most of Russian people and he has begun a campaign to improve Russia's place on the world stage, it could be a good thing to allow him to go beyond a two term limit as a President and continue what may be a successful ruling even as PM.
It beats the corrupt governing of Boris Yeltsin holding on to the title and power but holding Russia stagnat.
I read an article that said Putin would use a close friend as the president and after awhile he would resign because of illness and Putin as PM would be in the cat bird seat again. Sounds like a feasible plan to me.
iris in stones
11-03-2007, 06:24 AM
Not under Vladimir Putin.
His only constituency is power and his love of it. He'll never let it go, but I think he will delegate very carefully.
Like Stalin, he will place his friends carefully and instill just enough terror to keep them on their toes & off balance.
Same world, different day.
Not under Vladimir Putin.
His only constituency is power and his love of it. He'll never let it go, but I think he will delegate very carefully.
Like Stalin, he will place his friends carefully and instill just enough terror to keep them on their toes & off balance.
Same world, different day.
GW Bush has set a special precedent throughout the world. Other nations are taking note, if it can be done in America, we can do it here.
Anyone remember when people said of those evil Russkies, the KGB can come to your door and arrest you without a warrant, when they could spy and listen to your conversations. Looks as the US has legitimized it as an acceptable fact of of life.
Similarly, Putin has seen the special power Bush as aquired and with it he has placed, not just Russia but many other nations to regroup, re strengthen their militaries, their weapons, which makes me think, where he might have left office, he now feels he has an agenda to strengthen Russia.
iris in stones
11-05-2007, 11:25 AM
What's interesting is how many people are impervious to the "special power" Bush wields.
For instance, I was never hypnotized by one of his speeches.
He's never convinced me of the rightness of his causes.
Yet I don't understand this hold he has over other people.
I also don't understand why most people don't treat him like what he is-- the ill-mannered scion of a Gilded Age aristocratic family who, apart from his money, has nothing to offer in leadership.
What's interesting is how many people are impervious to the "special power" Bush wields.
For instance, I was never hypnotized by one of his speeches.
He's never convinced me of the rightness of his causes.
Yet I don't understand this hold he has over other people.
I also don't understand why most people don't treat him like what he is-- the ill-mannered scion of a Gilded Age aristocratic family who, apart from his money, has nothing to offer in leadership.
Not only the people but the whole Congress and Senate. Have you ever seen a more sheepish Congress ??
iris in stones
11-06-2007, 03:15 PM
No.
And their sheepishness arises not from fear alone, but from the sense that they have nothing to stand on, no meaningful platform from which to attack what Bush is doing.
They do, in fact, have several platforms from which they can defend the constitution and even dis-empower the regime. They have precedents in history, the expressed and implied powers of the constitution and ultimately, they also have other documents much older than NSC 68 and the huge anti-democratic blizzard of documents created in the Cold War.
If Andrew Jackson could set aside a supreme court ruling, then certainly Congress could have set aside the 2000 ruling that placed Bush in the White House.
No one is bound by anything to respect the outcome of a contested election.
No one is bound by anything to submit to the authority of a regime that bases its power on fear.
Because fear is a form of duress.
Well, it is saying something, internet money or not, 35,000 fans gave 4.2 million to the Ron Paul campaign and it was nice to see the kind of air time he received on CNN and I might add in a respectfull manner. \
Good luck Ron Paul. Glad you're doing well.
Seems they do not want too many observers when the election occurs.
MOSCOW — Russia has sharply reduced the number of European monitors permitted to observe upcoming parliamentary elections and has imposed restrictions that may impede the ability of opposition parties to run successful campaigns, one of Europe's main monitoring delegations said Friday.
An assessment in advance of the Dec. 2 vote by a delegation of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe raises questions about whether political opponents can counter President Vladimir V. Putin's government and its pervasive control over parliament and the electronic media.
The delegation cited concerns that election laws adopted in 2005 raised the threshold too high for opposition parties seeking to enter parliament.
LINK (http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/mayfaire/latimes68.htm)
Is this a trend around the world now. Hillary and then Argentina's first lady and now......
A RUSSIAN women's movement has urged President Vladimir Putin's wife Lyudmila to run for the presidency next year when her husband steps down but some politicians said they believed the move was a stunt, a newspaper reported on Saturday.
Russia's media-shy first lady has never shown any political ambition, but the idea is the latest in a series of proposals put forward by the popular Russian President's supporters to preserve his influence after his second term ends.
A movement based on Russia's Pacific coast, called the Women of Vladivostok, appealed to the first lady to follow the example of Argentina, where Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner was elected last month as President from her husband Nestor.
LINK (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22778318-5005961,00.html)
Sonny
11-20-2007, 05:34 PM
Interesting, a world run by women, this doesn't mean I have vaccum the house and do laundry does it ? How will PMS play in to politics and foreign policy.
An opposition march was dispersed. Let democracy rule!
Former world chess champion Garry Kasparov was sentenced to five days in jail late Saturday after he helped lead an anti-Kremlin protest in Moscow that resulted in clashes with riot police and dozens of arrests.
During the hastily organized trial, two riot police testified that they had been given orders before the rally to arrest Kasparov, one of President Vladimir Putin's harshest critics.
Kasparov was accused of organizing an unsanctioned procession "of at least 1,500 people directed against President Vladimir Putin," the charging documents said, as well as of chanting anti-government slogans and of resisting arrest.
LINK (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-11-24-moscowrally_N.htm)
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