What happened to the morals in America!!!

[Pete]

Every week its a new Mayor, Congressman, Senator etc. ,, Condit,Guilliani, Hart and recently others. If this trend continues it wont be long before we see elected politicians on Jerry Springer. Infidelity has become a joke as people have begun to ignore immoral acts and giving consideration to reelecting them. Cant recall the ladys name right now the one that sold or gave her list to NBC. That should be public knowledge, the electorate should know what the character of their candidate and how he's represented .

Add to this sexpionage, politicians, vulnarable to those that would seek to undermine US security.
The "we the people" is begining to look more like who are these people and wtf do they want.

[Sonny]

ahahhahahahaha you jealous pete ??? lmao

[Tumbleweed]

I hear ya Pete. Unfortunately it seems to be the nature of the beast. It seems when people who are in a position of power and influence achieve their goals they feel they are in control and the same power that got them there will also help keep them from getting caught.

Why is it the men seem to be the ones who get caught? Why are all the sluts getting away with it?:D

[Pete]

I hear ya Pete. Unfortunately it seems to be the nature of the beast. It seems when people who are in a position of power and influence achieve their goals they feel they are in control and the same power that got them there will also help keep them from getting caught.

Why is it the men seem to be the ones who get caught? Why are all the sluts getting away with it?:D

Lol ,,, It probably shouldnt worry me but it does, are these sluts, just sluts or are they agents of nations or groups that would hold politicians ransom to vote a certain way in order to retain discretion that would otherwise hurt their homelife and career.
I dont have to think too much to recognize that Edgar J Hoover would have sold his soul to the devil to keep the pictures later released, from ever reaching the publics eyes.
He was subjet for extortion and are these politicians placing themselves in uncomfortable consequenses.

[CHUQ]

To me any of this is a non-issue. Their private doings, I like that word, is just that private and since it is such doesw not concern, after they are human.

[Pete]

To me any of this is a non-issue. Their private doings, I like that word, is just that private and since it is such doesw not concern, after they are human.

I agree Chuq in every day life, except that these people's discretions can affect policy and can threaten security.
After all it's not new and many years ago, the case in 1963 in Great Britain that brought down the entire Harold MacMillan government. The case involved the Secretary of State for War, John Dennis Profumo. Profumo, a Tory and a married man, was compromised by an illicit affair with a London cabaret showgirl by the name of Christine Keeler. The problem was that Christine Keeler was also sleeping with Eugene Ivanov, a naval attache at the Soviet Embassy. It was widely claimed, at the time, that Keeler was passing British defense secrets, obtained from Profumo, to the Soviets.

[iris in stones]

I generally apply morals to questions of right & wrong.
Ethics, which apply to wider issues and are decided in more nuanced ways, are what I think is missing.
Black and white perceptions and the refusal to see what we are doing realistically, that is, in nuanced terms, are what is ruining American culture; they are alienating America from itself.
I would prefer it if Americans learned their morals and ethics from Herman Melville, Mark Twain, and Nathaniel Hawthorne. These men knew more about America's moral and ethical nature than anyone.

[Pete]

I generally apply morals to questions of right & wrong.
Ethics, which apply to wider issues and are decided in more nuanced ways, are what I think is missing.
Black and white perceptions and the refusal to see what we are doing realistically, that is, in nuanced terms, are what is ruining American culture; they are alienating America from itself.
I would prefer it if Americans learned their morals and ethics from Herman Melville, Mark Twain, and Nathaniel Hawthorne. These men knew more about America's moral and ethical nature than anyone.

Hmmmmmm so i take it Jerry Springer does not fit in that list, that represent the moral culture of America. (just kidding) Although there seems there is someone new popping up evey week that has either had sexual relations with an intern, male or female, infidelity with with their campaign manager etc.
But my concern is not what they do in their personal lives but what their personal lives can do to the political structure that affects the citizens that elected them to represent their views.

[George W]

Hmmmmmm so i take it Jerry Springer does not fit in that list, that represent the moral culture of America. (just kidding) Although there seems there is someone new popping up evey week that has either had sexual relations with an intern, male or female, infidelity with with their campaign manager etc.
But my concern is not what they do in their personal lives but what their personal lives can do to the political structure that affects the citizens that elected them to represent their views.

LOL pete, I know what you're trying to say and all i can add is there is an irony that we have a Morman presidential candidate, Mit Romney, who's religion says he can have more then one wife, yet McCain and Julliani are the ones with all the wives.

[iris in stones]

Well actually, Mittens's religion gave up the imperative of polygamy in order to secure Utah's statehood in 1896. But there are many fundamentalist Mormons who refused to give up the practice. They call it celestial marriage. The irony is flooring.

[CHUQ]

Morals? Right or wrong? Polygamy? All this is an individual's belief and as such none of my business. I mean it is hard enough to keep one wife happy, why would you want more than one?

Morality is a personal preception, and no matter hoiw much arguing goes on, in the end it will still be a personal decision.